In this episode, Dave sits down with author and retired teacher Gay Ann Kiser to explore her journey from growing up in the foster care system to becoming a prolific writer in Fairview, Texas. Gay shares candid insights about her childhood struggles, the therapeutic role that writing has played in her life, and how authenticity infuses her memoirs, sweet romances, and cozy mysteries.

Throughout the conversation, she opens up about using her own life experiences—including family challenges and foster care—to create flawed, relatable characters and to help readers and aspiring writers feel seen and understood. The episode also dives into the unique inspirations behind Gay’s work, such as her lifelong love of choir singing, her time teaching in local schools, and her rural Fairview lifestyle, complete with miniature donkeys and the recent loss of a beloved pet goat. Gay Ann offers practical advice for those who want to share their own stories, emphasizing the importance of honest storytelling, reading widely, and seeking meaningful feedback. 

Visit Gay's Website at: www.gaykiser.wixsite.com/author

Key topics discussed:

  • Gay Ann Kaiser’s early life in foster care and its impact on her writing

  • The role of authenticity and real-life experiences in her books

  • Writing as a form of therapy and self-exploration

  • The inspiration behind her cozy mysteries, especially her love for choir music

  • The process of writing and releasing both memoirs and fictional works

  • Living in Fairview, Texas, and its influence on her settings and characters

  • The importance of helping others tell their stories, particularly those who have faced hardships

  • Practical tips for aspiring writers on getting started and staying true to their voice

  • Gay’s involvement with her local church choir and the disclaimer about her fictional characters

  • Community spirit and support in Fairview, highlighted throughout the episode

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It's difficult for anyone, even if you're not a

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writer, to drudge up memories that are unpleasant and you

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don't ever want to throw somebody under the bus. But I

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just felt like when my kids were growing up,

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I didn't have very much to do with my

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mother. I didn't let them have very much to do with her

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for obvious reasons. And I felt like it was a way of

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really explaining to them why this is who I

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was. You'll know the child in me, and then

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you'll know how all of that affected all the

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decisions I made. Welcome friends, entrepreneurs and visionaries

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to Getting Neighborly Fairview, Texas very own Gateway to Opportunity.

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Proudly presented by the Fairview Economic Development Corporation. I'm your host, Super

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Dave Quinn, here to navigate the journey through the heart of our thriving

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community. In each episode, we unlock the doors of Fairview, offering you a

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firsthand look at the vibrant life and booming business landscape that

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define our community. We're not just neighbors here, we're collaborators,

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innovators and friends, building dreams and turning visions into reality.

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From insightful stories of local success to exploring the advantages that

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make Fairview an ideal community for your business, this podcast is your

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inside track to discovering why Fairview isn't just a place to do business,

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it's a place to grow, to. Belong, and to call home. So whether you're looking

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to start up, scale up, or simply soak up the spirit of community that

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champions entrepreneurial success, you found the right spot. Welcome

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to Getting Neighborly in Fairview, Texas. Let's make your business dream

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a community success story. Howdy

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friends and welcome to another episode of Getting Neighborly. I'm your host, Super Dave

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Quinn. This is the show where we celebrate the people, places and purpose driven

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organizations that make Fairview feel like home. Today,

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we're stepping into a world of miniature donkeys, mysterious choir members,

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and second chances with someone whose pen turns real life

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into page turning fiction. Gay Ann Kaiser is a Furby

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resident, a retired teacher and author of more than a dozen books. Her

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heartfelt memoirs and sweet romances to her

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latest cozy mysteries, Killer in the Choir and Rhythm of

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Revenge. Her stories may be fiction, but

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the emotion is real. Drawn from a lifetime of experience, including

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growing up in the foster care system, she writes what she knows

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and what she knows is worth reading. Yay. Welcome to Getting

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Neighborly. Thank you for that great

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introduction, Dave. Well, I'm sorry I stumbled through it, but I tried my best.

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We are so glad to have you today. Listen, tell me a little bit about

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being a Writer. What age did that idea

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of becoming a writer sort of first show up in your life? Is that something

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you just always done, or is that recently or just in the last few

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years? I was not one of those

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kids who wrote journals and loved to write

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in school. But truly, I have to say,

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looking back now, in my adult years,

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when I was seven years old, I lived with my grandmother.

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Minnesota, and I really struggled.

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she stayed there for seven years. My father was what I guess you'd

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was in my head. I was kind of a lonely kid,

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and I just started inventing characters in my head.

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a different kind of world, I guess, an imaginary world. And then the world

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I created. I had this, like, awesome mom who was

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always there for me and a great dad that was really

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involved with us, which just was not the case. My. But looking

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back, I see that that really was the beginning of a child

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figuring out a way in with the

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little control they had of empowering themselves in

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escaping from a situation. So I would say, honestly,

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at 7, I was a writer, but I didn't know I was. Oh, wow. So

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you really were writing in your head. You just weren't putting pen to paper yet.

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Perfect. Yes, exactly. And it looks like, from what I can tell,

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you're writing covers again. Everything from the cozy mystery

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to memoirs. What really connects all of those? What's the

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common thread in your writing?

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type of writing, and you couldn't bring certain things

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denominator is I'm very honest. My characters

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themselves straightened out. And sometimes they do, and sometimes they don't.

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now, it will never happen. So I did it, and

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where they knew me as a kid, and

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authenticity is everything. Just. Just be real people, like

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real characters. I love that. I. I talk a lot about. In fact,

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my social media handle is Dave Quinn, 24 7.

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real Persona. And I was like, you. You can't. It.

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character sort of have a piece of you in

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those characters? Some of them

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do. There was a fictional book I wrote

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probably 12 years ago, and then I changed it. I

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wasn't satisfied, and I changed it all up and changed the title.

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Holidays in that book. I didn't realize till

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a decade later that the male

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hero in this book, Jonathan Carrington,

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is really me because he had a very contentious

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relationship with his mother. And. And it wasn't a

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happily ever after. It was kind of a happily for now when

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he was dealing with it. But I didn't realize, like, for 10

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years, gay. That's you. He's you in that book. But you didn't know it

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when you wrote it. So it does slip in. And of course, with the

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Cozy Mysteries, which are fun to write,

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it's all about singing in choirs, and I'm a

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lifelong choir person. Church choirs.

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I was in a nationally acclaimed

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Sweet Adelines group called the Rich Tones, and we competed

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internationally on stage, and singing was everything.

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growing up in Minnesota, it was truly the only

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thing I was good at, and I knew that. So that

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music just had. We talked about authenticity. Right?

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Music had to be in the book. So these are really fun. That is

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awesome. You mentioned your memoir, and really it's,

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you know, pretty personal, raw, real. What made you

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finally decide to kind of capture your story and

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I mean, and be. And give that to the world and

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say, well, for better or worse, here it is.

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for anyone, even if you're not a writer, to

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drudge up memories that are unpleasant. And you don't ever want to throw somebody

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under the bus. You know, you just. You're better than that. You don't want to

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do that. But I just felt

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like when my kids were growing up, they're

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now in their 40s, but when they were growing up, I

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didn't have very much to do with my

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mother. I didn't let them have very much to do with her,

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for obvious reasons. And I felt like it was a way of really

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explaining to them why this is. Why

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this is who I was. You'll know the child in

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me, and then you'll know how all of that

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affected all the decisions I made. And sometimes

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I know I said to at least one of my two

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kids when they didn't appreciate maybe the way

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with what I've been given, I've done the best I could,

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and I just have. So I think it was, in a way

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to explain them and help me under. Help them

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understand me as a parent. That makes so much

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sense. You know, sometimes, even today, there's. There's decisions that you have

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to make as a parent, and. And you sort of. You want to protect

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your kids from why you're making that decision, but it doesn't make sense to

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them. So. I get that. Right. Let's talk a little

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bit about growing up in the foster care

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system. And I mean, I was

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unfortunate. You know, I grew up with two loving parents and sort

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of, I guess, air quotes, normal household.

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characters? Is it a way for you to sort of,

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you know, maybe heal from or, you know, recognize

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what you went through and sort of how that.

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but I put it into the characters. There was

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one really. And I wrote about this in my memoir,

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of course. There was one really emotional moment for me as a

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child growing up with a family. That was a fourth one in four

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years. And I ended up staying there. But one

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Christmas, we were all asked to go in separate rooms. It

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was Christmas Eve, and we opened our presents

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then. But there was one. My foster mother handed us

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boxes, and I'm thinking, oh, gosh, I knew what a

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clothing box looked like when I was a kid. It's like, oh,

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it's going to be clothes. So we went in our separate

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rooms, and we all changed. And I thought that was the stupidest thing I ever

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heard of. And my foster mom, Elaine Roselyn, was insistent

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we came out of the room. We all

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had matching pajamas from Sears and Roebuck.

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I was about 11, and I just. I Looked at everybody in the

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family, and they all looked like me. And I just. It was the feeling

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that I really am part of this family. I'm just one

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of them. And so I. I even wrote that in one

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of books I wrote about the adopted two

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boys. And that happened because I had to write about that. It

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was such a unique. Oh, what a. What a fabulous moment.

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Finally, a sense of belonging and a place in the world that I can only

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imagine that. How powerful that must have been. Yeah.

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Yes. Do you find that, you know, through your writing, that it

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helped you heal through that? I mean, you must have,

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again, had a lot of challenges and things. Is. Is. Has that been a

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way for you to sort of reconcile all of those things and move

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past it? Yeah, and I don't know if you could say

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move past it, because I view people.

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help people because of where I was. So in that way, I

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don't get past it. But writing is so therapeutic.

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And I'll give you an example. And I hope this doesn't make you sad after.

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After I. But it might. After I signed for this

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last Sunday, not even a week ago. It's

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amazing. Our sweet little pet goat,

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Ginger, died. She was old. She was very old.

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She was almost 14. It was her time, and it

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was so devastating. And the first thing I did after

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I cried, of course, was I sat down

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and I outlined an entire children's book on.

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I've never written a children's book, but I wrote it. And

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it's. I'm. I kind of outlined it, and it's really

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about the lessons Ginger taught us. And I have

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specific things. How she interacted with the donkeys and what

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everybody learned from her and her from us. So

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writing, obviously, is very therapeutic for

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me. Well, so a couple things. It's incredibly sad. I'm so sorry.

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Thank you. But also the fact that, you know,

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we people, we have. We say this country lifestyle

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in Fairview, and so the fact that you have pet

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donkeys and goats are. It's sort of on brand and

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awesome for. For the town of Fairview. I

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know it's. I mean, it's sad. It's super sad. But that is. That's

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quintessential Fairview and what we're talking about. Right. And I love the fact that

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you outlined the children's book. It's a whole new genre for you.

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What an amazing opportunity. So. Well, let's talk a

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little about some of your other books. Let's talk about the cozy mystery series

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you've got Killer in the Choir and Rhythm of Revenge that

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are both out. And can I add one thing, that

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on September 1st, the third one in that series,

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Arson in the Alto section, will be available,

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and it's available now for pre order, but it will come out September

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1st. That's amazing. So what's the

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inspiration behind this sort of musical twist? I mean, maybe

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you've kind of already talked about your love for choir. Is that what's

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really the inspiration behind this mystery?

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Yeah, it is, because, you know, over the years being so involved, and

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my daughter's also a musician and a lovely singer, and over the

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years, from having so many choral directors

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and such, I've learned a lot about music.

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And so I can kind of do some inside

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jokes that if you're a musician,

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especially an age. Yes. An aging one

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with way too much vibrato, which is your voice

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quivering. So I kind of make fun of that, you know, in a

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fun way and not a cruel way. Yeah. Well,

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Hannah and Detective Kincaid, I believe. Right. Are the characters,

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and they're pretty. Yes. Liam Kincaid got a

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pair there. So how do those two characters evolve? And

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really, how much fun was it to write the tension that you

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add there? Like, it's got to be. I'm thinking it's got to be

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a lot of fun to do that.

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It is. You know, Liam is very intense.

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Hannah's pretty laid back, but real opinionated if you get

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her feathers in a ruffle there. So that is fun to

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write about. And she, in a nice way,

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puts him in his place. And I am,

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truth be told. Like, if you. If you're an alpha

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male, you. You probably want to find

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another author to read and not me. Because I.

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I just. I just think life is

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fun, and I like people that are

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make fun of themselves. You have to. Come on. You know,

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we all need to make fun of ourselves from time to time. So

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that's fun because Hannah does keep him grounded,

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although he doesn't always like it. So that's just fun. I didn't marry a guy

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like him, and I wouldn't. But it's fun to write about.

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If I had. Well, we. I just had this happen last night.

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It's so funny you mentioned laughing at yourself. I have a neighbor

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helping me trying to find the sprinkler head valve box.

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noticed that there was a sprinkler head broken. And so then

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I go over and I start to do the work on that sprinkler head, and

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he comes back and he's like, no, no, no, you're drifting from the goal

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stop. And, and you know, my wife is like, that

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didn't make you mad? I'm like, no, it's. It, it was, it's classic

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because I, I have adhd, so of course I'm gonna go fix what's right in

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front of me. There you go. And she was laughing. She's like, you know,

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that's it. That didn't bother you at all? And I was like, well, what should

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it have? I didn't realize, but at the time, I just died laughing. Maybe,

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maybe when she said it, it would have, but, you know, oh, it was so

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funny. I was like. It was like he was channeling you, Kimbra. Because the way

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he said it, he's like, no, no, no, you're drifting from the goal stop.

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So very nice way of saying. He was. He was trying to

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be friendly, but he was like, look, we've been out there for an hour in

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the heat trying to find it. So he was like, no, no, we gotta get

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this done anyway. Alright, so Fairview, you know,

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obviously you live here, and in your stories, it feels like it really

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could be the backdrop of your books. I mean, does, does the community

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inspire your settings or is it where you

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find some of the inspiration for your. For your books?

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Yeah, I am drawn to small towns, you know, and that's a

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popular genre, thankfully, in, in our society today.

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But I remember I have been in

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Texas since 1988. We moved in with that big JCPenney

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group from the East. So I, I. My husband was

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a career JCPenney guy. And so

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my first job, the first thing I did when we moved was I

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went to graduate school and got an advanced degree. And I got it in

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teaching because I wanted to teach. And the first job I ever

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got was at Lovejoy School. There was one school.

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That's all there was, was one school.

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And then I moved on because I wanted to do just language

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arts. I didn't want to do all the subjects, like in third grade,

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so I moved on to Plano because there were many more schools.

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But once the kids flew the coop and went to college,

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we wanted a country home. We wanted to be

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out. My husband loves yard work, so he wanted land.

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And we must have looked in like 30

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different areas. I could not stop

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coming back to Fairview. I could not stop.

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And so finally we said, why don't we limit it to Fairview

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and Lucas? And so that's how we got

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here. And I guess there's that nostalgia I

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felt I had had Students when I taught at Lovejoy

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who brought like a horse to school, one brought for show and tell.

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So I kind of got engrossed in that whole

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culture and that's how I got here. And I would say yes, that

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fictitious town I invented in Serenity Hills

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for the mystery series reminds me of Fairview in a whole

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lot of ways. And the people here, I love it. So let's

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talk a little bit about the, the Kaiser ranch you're writing where you

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write what? Describe that for folks. And you

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know, I'm picturing, you know, you got, you know, your donkeys and you know,

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murder plots for breakfast and what do you

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write on the porch? Where do you, what's your inspiration and where do you

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write from? I am really a

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plotter. I like to plot. I guess it's from my days of planning,

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curriculum and in school. So I will

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sit up when I'm coming up on a new book. I'll just take my

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legal pad and I'll sit out and watch. The view

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is beautiful that we have. It's magnificent. I'll sit out and

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look over the fence in the pasture at the donkeys roaming

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around and. And I can do that for weeks.

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I'll just jot down things and kind of get a sense of

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the setting. And then I get a big storyboard I have.

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It's huge. I don't think people even use storyboards anymore.

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And I plot all the chapters

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and I teach writing classes. So I'll teach students.

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You have to have a big turning advantage at the end of chapter three.

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Every scene needs to. And with something

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exciting like, oh my God, what's going to happen? I need to turn the page.

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And then chapters 5, 10 and 15 have turning points.

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So then I get very much formula minded, non

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add style. Right. No offense.

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My son has it. It's okay for me to make fun, so that's what I

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do. And once you know, I will tell you once

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I really figure out the message in where I

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want to go, truly, I can write like a

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250 page book in a month if I know that. Okay.

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Yeah. That doesn't mean I won't edit and change, but

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I have to know. I have to know where I'm going. All right. That makes

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a lot of sense. I attribute that, Yeah. I attribute that

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to a life in my early years that was out of

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control. I am now a control freak. And I'm happy to admit

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it, I am fine with it. Well, it's understandable, right, from, from your

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background and where you came from that, it's, you know, it makes sense. So

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I guess then that, you know, my next question was going to be, how do

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you know when the story's done? But you've really. You sort of.

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You with you plotting it out, you know, where the destination is. So then once

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you write, once you get there, you're there. Yes.

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Yeah. I will sometimes say that I can get

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halfway through and I'm not

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sure I want the killer in

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the mystery or the guilty person to be that

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one. And I sometimes change that up. Oh, let's

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make it this person. He said something worse. Let's make him the

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killer. So, yeah, only in the mysteries

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is that an issue. So let's talk a little bit about two

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things. One, the best part of. And then let's sort

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of converse that the hardest part of putting work

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out into the world. So so many times, you know,

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that's the hardest part. People can, you know, even if they get it down on

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paper, you know, hitting publish, that's a different

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level of things. So talk about those, the good and the bad of

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that, of hitting publish and putting your work into the world.

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The problem with hitting the publish button is, and this

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is probably true of most writers, I don't feel like I should

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ever be satisfied and ever think it couldn't be better. And so

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that makes it hard to push that button because I'll agonize over

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now, could I make it better by doing this? Should I have done this? So

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that's the problematic part for me and letting it

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go, like, I love these people. I don't want.

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I don't want to say goodbye. I wrote a little series. It's short.

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It's like two books based in Alaska. And I didn't want to

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stop, but they only have two daughters, so I'd written about each of them,

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so it was done. So that's the hard part. The

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good part is, you know, gosh, picking up

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your book. And this will probably come out backwards. This

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is the one I do about teaching memoir writing. There's activities in it

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for people to do, but that's. That's the hardest

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part is being done with it. And I will just add. I don't know if

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this is true of a lot of writers. I love searching for

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book covers. I think that is so much

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fun. So it's kind of like decorating. That's random, right?

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I think it is. I don't like decorating, but I like that part.

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Yeah. Well, you know, you've taught writing. You've obviously lived

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through some Hardships. And you've published stories that really.

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I feel like you help people feel seen.

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What is something that you hope readers take away from your work? Is there sort

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of an underlying. Is it just

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entertainment, or is there something that you hope that the readers take away

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from your books? As

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I'm writing, I'm always thinking of the

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reader. I can love writing something, but

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if. If there's no takeaway for my reader, there's

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really no point to me writing. If they can't see themselves

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in what I write, then it was a waste of time for me to

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write. And I like the readers that say, I never wrote my story, but

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if I had, I'd write similar to the way you write. Your voice is similar

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to mine. That's what I hope to accomplish when I teach

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classes. My ideal

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situation now that I'm retired would be

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to, like, visit a women's prison,

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maybe even online, because I don't really drive at night that much, and

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teach women, maybe in the prison system or that

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have fallen on hard times. How writing, how it can be

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therapy. Because even if you don't have power,

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just writing it down really in a way that's empowered you,

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you've at least made the effort to get it out. You've really taken ownership.

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And that's all you. Whatever it is. Right. Because you're you now.

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Yes. You now control what you're putting on paper. So you have kind of

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wrapped your fingers around it. Exactly. Well said.

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Yes. Exactly. What advice would you give someone that

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listens to this show, maybe here in Fairview, to our audience, target

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audience, is if they want to tell their story, but they don't know where to

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get started, what's the thing that they could do just to get

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started? The way I

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got started was I read quite a few of them of

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memoirs to see, and I picked out what I liked and didn't

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like, but I did in this book, things I wish I

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told you. The first thing you need to do

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is write down childhood experiences that you

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really remember well. And when you write it, it might

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not feel. You'd think, well, that's kind of stupid. That's not. But the fact that

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you keep thinking about it means something. There's something in

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there, in your subconscious that. That.

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That tells you it really impacted you more than you thought

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it had. And then they. And then we kind of shift into

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adulthood and how. How that's impacted you. That's true.

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Yeah. And I would just. I would just tell them, learn everything you can

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about the craft of writing. Don't don't write a.

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Don't. Don't embarrass yourself and write it a terrible

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piece of work. Get help from people. Get people to critique it.

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Honestly, not your Aunt Mary Lou, because she's going to tell you

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it's just wonderful. You need someone like my wife who's willing to tell you

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that stinks. Don't do that. You do. That's what you

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need. Yeah. Maybe I'll have a red at my next book. Oh,

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that's great. So. Yeah. And where can people

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find. If they want to reach out to you or if they want to find

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your books? Amazon, you know, is there.

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How do they connect with you from. To

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learn more about what you do in the books that you have? They want to

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know more about what you've written. Where would they go or how would they do

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that? I have. I don't know if. Well, I sent

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you that, I think my website. Yeah, we'll put that in the show notes. And

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I really. Oh, good. Yeah. I pour myself

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into the newsletters. I only. I make them monthly. I took

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a break as my husband had some health issues. And now I'll be back

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to. To the newsletters. And then I tell releases coming

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up and I ask for readers opinion sometimes. And then

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I'm on Facebook and I think I sent that. Yeah, we sent the.

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Sent those links. So you have a personal site. We'll link in the show notes.

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We'll link your phone. And if they want to sign up to the newsletter, they

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go to the website. They can go to the website and

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sign up. Yes. And you can feel free to

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give my email address out. Sometimes I do that if, if

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people are interested, like in having me speak. Awesome. And teach

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because I have PowerPoints of how to write a memoir and then how to

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write a fictional book and then how to write. Okay. You know, so

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that. And I don't charge for that. That's amazing. All right.

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Well, this has been a fabulous conversation. I really appreciate you taking time

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out of your Friday to jump on here with us. I think it's. It's

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a quintessential story from Fairview and getting neighborly. It really

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is what we are trying to promote through the EDC and really

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the town of Fairview, what to experience when you live here. So thank

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you for joining us. You're welcome. Can I give one little

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plug? Absolutely. Okay. So

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I attend and love Creekwood United

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Methodist Church in Allen. It's right up the street from me, like a mile

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from my house. And. And as a disclaimer

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I'm in choir there. I'm taking a little leave, but I've been in choir

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and all of the characters are made up. They're not based on anyone

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because I write that in the beginning of each book. So I just want

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that out there. No one is. You don't get upset,

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okay? I had to get that in. I love that

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when you go sit down on Wednesday night for practice or something. You don't want

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somebody elbowing you. Go, hey, yeah, I know who you were talking about.

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No, you don't. You don't want that. So you won't get to sing a solo

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in church if that's the case. I love that. Gay, thank you so much.

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Thank you folks. Thanks. This has been another chapter in the Book of

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Fairview and what a story it was. Big thanks to Gay Ann Kaiser

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for sharing not just her characters, but her courage.

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Thanks from all of us at Getting Neighborly podcast. Remember, whether you're here in

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Fairview, Texas or dreaming from afar, you're always part of our community. And

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as we wrap up, I want to say a big shout out to our friends

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Quinn, reminding you that here in Fairview, Texas, you're not just a neighbor, you're family.

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And until next time, keep the creative spirit alive and stay

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neighborly and make it a great day.

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And that's a wrap on another episode of Getting Neighborly. From the heart of

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Fairview, Texas, this is your host Super Dave Quinn and I can't thank you enough

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